Comments on: The Kos Bubble and Rove 2.0 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20 Putting the blogosphere under a magnifying glass Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:00:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: links for 2007-11-20 | Brewed Fresh Daily http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-122340 links for 2007-11-20 | Brewed Fresh Daily Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:48:44 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-122340 <p>[...] The Kos Bubble and Rove 2.0 at Blog P.I. [...]</p> [...] The Kos Bubble and Rove 2.0 at Blog P.I. [...]

]]> By: Does Markos Moulitsas Need President Bush? at Blog P.I. http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-115648 Does Markos Moulitsas Need President Bush? at Blog P.I. Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:33:54 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-115648 <p>[...] couple weeks back, I covered first-week reaction to the twinned Newsweek columns by Markos Moulitsas and Karl Rove. The early returns showed that Newsweek.com readers were much [...]</p> [...] couple weeks back, I covered first-week reaction to the twinned Newsweek columns by Markos Moulitsas and Karl Rove. The early returns showed that Newsweek.com readers were much [...]

]]> By: rightwingdog http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-111469 rightwingdog Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:46:48 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-111469 <p>Thanx for the info!</p> <p>I read the Newsweek articles, I normally do not pick up that magazine but I did and this issue had several very good reads. I, possibly being a bit RIGHTsided, thought the Rove piece was far better than Kos'. I don't believe the one sided linking as Timothy points out was due to the Kos website as these links were to other blogs, the same could have been done to KOS. They took the RIGHT road to Rove which; if the blogs were listed may have been conservative blogs but there are as many left leaning blogs that could have snatched up a link as well.. Giving Kos his due, he is obviously intelligent but he should get off the Bush focus. People are getting tired of the blame for everything going to Bush mantra. I beleve that, as you point out, time will tell but if Rove can keep it interesting, his superior knowledge of politics will win out over Kos. Remember, Rove has been there, Kos has not!</p> <p>RWD</p> Thanx for the info!

I read the Newsweek articles, I normally do not pick up that magazine but I did and this issue had several very good reads.
I, possibly being a bit RIGHTsided, thought the Rove piece was far better than Kos’. I don’t believe the one sided linking as Timothy points out was due to the Kos website as these links were to other blogs, the same could have been done to KOS. They
took the RIGHT road to Rove which; if the blogs were listed may have been conservative blogs but there are as many left leaning blogs that could have snatched up a link as well..
Giving Kos his due, he is obviously intelligent but he should get off the Bush focus. People are getting tired of the blame for everything going to Bush mantra. I beleve that, as you point out, time will tell but if Rove can keep it interesting, his superior knowledge of politics will win out over Kos. Remember, Rove has been there, Kos has not!

RWD

]]> By: Timothy http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109988 Timothy Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:57:21 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109988 <p>It's also possible that because Kos has a hugely popular website on which people can find his opinions already, they don't see much of a point in reading some article he wrote for Newsweek. Contrast that with Rove being otherwise out of the spotlight but still having interesting things to say about politics and this makes a lot more sense.</p> It’s also possible that because Kos has a hugely popular website on which people can find his opinions already, they don’t see much of a point in reading some article he wrote for Newsweek. Contrast that with Rove being otherwise out of the spotlight but still having interesting things to say about politics and this makes a lot more sense.

]]> By: William Beutler http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109686 William Beutler Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:19:47 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109686 <p>@ Roy </p> <p>Good point about people being drawn to power; that undoubtedly works in his favor. And his lead anecdote is juicy, but you're right that his checklist is nothing new -- "Be strong on Iraq" -- which in fact is not much different from Kos', which might have read "Be strong on withdrawing from Iraq." Both columns counseled certitude, which if the candidates take their advice, should make for a more interesting 2008. </p> <p>@ RightWingDog</p> <p>I think you'll dig it. Bai also makes no effort to conceal his sympathy for the progressive cause, even if he has a hard time describing what that actually means, but it's nothing if not an honest portrait. If he pulled punches in his reporting, he didn't pull many. (I also recommend Byron York's "The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy," which covered much of the same ground, albeit as an outsider.)</p> @ Roy

Good point about people being drawn to power; that undoubtedly works in his favor. And his lead anecdote is juicy, but you’re right that his checklist is nothing new — “Be strong on Iraq” — which in fact is not much different from Kos’, which might have read “Be strong on withdrawing from Iraq.” Both columns counseled certitude, which if the candidates take their advice, should make for a more interesting 2008.

@ RightWingDog

I think you’ll dig it. Bai also makes no effort to conceal his sympathy for the progressive cause, even if he has a hard time describing what that actually means, but it’s nothing if not an honest portrait. If he pulled punches in his reporting, he didn’t pull many. (I also recommend Byron York’s “The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy,” which covered much of the same ground, albeit as an outsider.)

]]> By: rightwingdog http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109681 rightwingdog Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:48:22 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109681 <p>Good article! I have just purchased "THE ARGUMENT" by Matt Bai as I thought it an interesting subject. Now after your comment above, it will be the next book I will read.</p> <p>RWD</p> Good article! I have just purchased “THE ARGUMENT” by Matt Bai as I thought it an interesting subject. Now after your comment above, it will be the next book I will read.

RWD

]]> By: roy edroso http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109680 roy edroso Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:45:35 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/the-kos-bubble-and-rove-20#comment-109680 <p><I>Now, I have read both articles, and I did find Rove’s much more interesting.</I></p> <p>Of course you did, and of course most other Newsweek readers did. </p> <p>For one thing. Rove leads with an anecdote. About him being in the West Wing -- oooooh! And about Hillary Clinton, who is famous and controversial. </p> <p>Also Rove has been successful at real politics, which is a higher species of power than the web diddling in which Kos is prominent. (Advantage: non-blogosphere!) People find power fascinating, and flock to listen when someone who has successfully gained power promises to slip them some inside dope.</p> <p>It's all bullshit, of course. I can just see Rove telling Giuliani to "aggressively campaign for the votes of America's minorities" -- and then the two of them falling to the floor in helpless laughter. The rest of the tips are the political equivalent of those Cosmopolitan "How to Drive Your Man Wild in Bed" articles. </p> <p>Rove didn't outdraw Kos with the quality of his thought and his prose. He did it by working the angles. Just like last time!</p> Now, I have read both articles, and I did find Rove’s much more interesting.

Of course you did, and of course most other Newsweek readers did.

For one thing. Rove leads with an anecdote. About him being in the West Wing — oooooh! And about Hillary Clinton, who is famous and controversial.

Also Rove has been successful at real politics, which is a higher species of power than the web diddling in which Kos is prominent. (Advantage: non-blogosphere!) People find power fascinating, and flock to listen when someone who has successfully gained power promises to slip them some inside dope.

It’s all bullshit, of course. I can just see Rove telling Giuliani to “aggressively campaign for the votes of America’s minorities” — and then the two of them falling to the floor in helpless laughter. The rest of the tips are the political equivalent of those Cosmopolitan “How to Drive Your Man Wild in Bed” articles.

Rove didn’t outdraw Kos with the quality of his thought and his prose. He did it by working the angles. Just like last time!

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