Comments on: Inside the Ron Paul Machine II: On the Assembly Line http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line Putting the blogosphere under a magnifying glass Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:21:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Pete http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-102987 Pete Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:36:37 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-102987 <p>So basically, you are upset because some college kids on facebook posted a link to a site with an unscientific poll on it? </p> <p>I'm confused, what about when Romney's official campaign sent his supporters an e-mail the days before the the FRC Action straw poll encouraging them to vote in the online straw poll if they weren't attending in person? (Romney won that poll, http://www.frcaction.org/)</p> <p>http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/romney<em>camp</em>stacking<em>the</em>value.html</p> <p>Now there is an unethical action, by the Romney campaign, that is worth writing about. Then again maybe you should continue your hard hitting investigative work on Facebook who knows maybe you can find a picture of one of these kids drinking under age. That would really stick it to 'em. See my point? </p> <p>P.S. I also think it is boarder line unethical to be posting those peoples pictures and full names outside of Facebook. If you want to post a screen shot fine but you should be blurring at least the last name and locations.</p> So basically, you are upset because some college kids on facebook posted a link to a site with an unscientific poll on it?

I’m confused, what about when Romney’s official campaign sent his supporters an e-mail the days before the the FRC Action straw poll encouraging them to vote in the online straw poll if they weren’t attending in person? (Romney won that poll, http://www.frcaction.org/)

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/romneycampstackingthevalue.html

Now there is an unethical action, by the Romney campaign, that is worth writing about. Then again maybe you should continue your hard hitting investigative work on Facebook who knows maybe you can find a picture of one of these kids drinking under age. That would really stick it to ‘em. See my point?

P.S. I also think it is boarder line unethical to be posting those peoples pictures and full names outside of Facebook. If you want to post a screen shot fine but you should be blurring at least the last name and locations.

]]> By: Mike http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-100289 Mike Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:15:30 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-100289 <p>Go Ron Paul! Set the people free.</p> <p>remember taxes are coercive in nature. The government can only collect taxes by using government agents who compel people to pay by threatening prison sentences/fines. Taxes are tyranny. </p> <p>Nothing, absolutely nothing, justifies coercion against innocent individuals. Taxes should be used for the bare minimum (the police, courts, etc), and nothing else. People's health problems DO NOT JUSTIFY applying coercion to people to be able to collect funds for government social programs. Coercively collecting resources for social programs is tyrannical and evil.</p> Go Ron Paul! Set the people free.

remember taxes are coercive in nature. The government can only collect taxes by using government agents who compel people to pay by threatening prison sentences/fines. Taxes are tyranny.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, justifies coercion against innocent individuals. Taxes should be used for the bare minimum (the police, courts, etc), and nothing else. People’s health problems DO NOT JUSTIFY applying coercion to people to be able to collect funds for government social programs. Coercively collecting resources for social programs is tyrannical and evil.

]]> By: Tom Jefferson http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-86146 Tom Jefferson Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:34:21 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-86146 <p>~30k Meetup supporters ~51k myspace friends ~24k youtube subscribers ~17k facebook supporters</p> <p>Ron Paul has over 30,000 registered volunteers. More than all other candidates combined. And more registering now at Meetup.com.</p> <p>Dr. Ron Paul has the most contributions from U.S. military personnel and veterans above all other candidates. So support the troops and vote Ron Paul!</p> <p>Ron Paul places 1st or 2nd in every straw poll, debate, and active participation survey. </p> <p>Ron Paul is 1st on YouTube, Meetup, MySpace, Technorati, Alexa, Clickz, Google, etc. The old media is just too slow to realize what is happening.</p> <p>Do not listen to the so called 'Scientific Polls'. Ron Paul is not included in the cleverly woven questions pollsters are asking. This has been well documented.</p> <p>Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were doing about the same in the 'Scientific Polls' at this stage in their elections. 'Scientific Polls' at this stage only measure name recognition. Over the next six months Ron Paul will gain name recognition. Most people who learn about Ron Paul become major supporters.</p> <p>A big problem with our electoral process is that the old media generally supports the richest candidates (who got their money from special interest). Those are the worst candidates because they are owned by special interest and lobbyists. Hopefully the internet will help restore balance and choice. </p> <p>Dr. Ron Paul is the only major candidate not owned by military-industrial-complex, corporations, special interest, lobbyists, etc. Fix the system and vote Ron Paul. And tell everyone you know. Now is the time to set ourselves free.</p> <p>The American people know that something is very wrong in Washington. The American people want change!</p> <p>Visit YouTube and search Ron Paul to learn more... Join the Revolution -- Vote Ron Paul!</p> ~30k Meetup supporters
~51k myspace friends
~24k youtube subscribers
~17k facebook supporters

Ron Paul has over 30,000 registered volunteers. More than all other candidates combined. And more registering now at Meetup.com.

Dr. Ron Paul has the most contributions from U.S. military personnel and veterans above all other candidates. So support the troops and vote Ron Paul!

Ron Paul places 1st or 2nd in every straw poll, debate, and active participation survey.

Ron Paul is 1st on YouTube, Meetup, MySpace, Technorati, Alexa, Clickz, Google, etc. The old media is just too slow to realize what is happening.

Do not listen to the so called ‘Scientific Polls’. Ron Paul is not included in the cleverly woven questions pollsters are asking. This has been well documented.

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were doing about the same in the ‘Scientific Polls’ at this stage in their elections. ‘Scientific Polls’ at this stage only measure name recognition. Over the next six months Ron Paul will gain name recognition. Most people who learn about Ron Paul become major supporters.

A big problem with our electoral process is that the old media generally supports the richest candidates (who got their money from special interest). Those are the worst candidates because they are owned by special interest and lobbyists. Hopefully the internet will help restore balance and choice.

Dr. Ron Paul is the only major candidate not owned by military-industrial-complex, corporations, special interest, lobbyists, etc. Fix the system and vote Ron Paul. And tell everyone you know. Now is the time to set ourselves free.

The American people know that something is very wrong in Washington. The American people want change!

Visit YouTube and search Ron Paul to learn more…
Join the Revolution — Vote Ron Paul!

]]> By: Ron Paul supporters CHEAT and SPAM the polls « Stancel Spencer http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-81926 Ron Paul supporters CHEAT and SPAM the polls « Stancel Spencer Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:05:15 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-81926 <p>[...] Spencer « Bring it on, Paulyannas. Ron Paul supporters CHEAT and SPAM the polls July 17th, 2007 Paulyannas write spamming scripts (as seen by one Paulyanna onFacebook): [...]</p> [...] Spencer « Bring it on, Paulyannas. Ron Paul supporters CHEAT and SPAM the polls July 17th, 2007 Paulyannas write spamming scripts (as seen by one Paulyanna onFacebook): [...]

]]> By: Aaron http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-78508 Aaron Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:19:07 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-78508 <p>And you don't think other candidates do some of the things you are accusing Ron's folks of doing? I take it as a really good sign that you feel threatened enough to attack "us" - using words like "they" to describe average americans who happen to support a truthful/amazing man running for president. We are all different - and there are more of us than you could possibly imagine---just tonight, walking down the street--I said hi to some punk kids walking down a dark alley -- I asked them if they had ever heard of Ron Paul, and they replied that, "yeah, that guy is awesome" I love the fact that we worry you - or that it worries you that we have fooled ourselves about "our" numbers. Just live your life while you can---don't rain on a party--you should join "us" and become part of the "they" Especially if you fancy yourself a Christian visit a myspace page I set up www.myspace.com/christiansforronpaul good night.</p> And you don’t think other candidates do some of the things you are accusing Ron’s folks of doing? I take it as a really good sign that you feel threatened enough to attack “us” – using words like “they” to describe average americans who happen to support a truthful/amazing man running for president. We are all different – and there are more of us than you could possibly imagine—just tonight, walking down the street–I said hi to some punk kids walking down a dark alley — I asked them if they had ever heard of Ron Paul, and they replied that, “yeah, that guy is awesome” I love the fact that we worry you – or that it worries you that we have fooled ourselves about “our” numbers. Just live your life while you can—don’t rain on a party–you should join “us” and become part of the “they” Especially if you fancy yourself a Christian visit a myspace page I set up http://www.myspace.com/christiansforronpaul
good night.

]]> By: Skull / Bones » Blog Archive » http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-78501 Skull / Bones » Blog Archive » Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:34:39 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-78501 <p>[...] Inside the Ron Paul machine [...]</p> [...] Inside the Ron Paul machine [...]

]]> By: Has the Paul Machine Given Up on Digg? at Blog P.I. http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-78182 Has the Paul Machine Given Up on Digg? at Blog P.I. Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:52:02 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-78182 <p>[...] Over the past couple weeks, I’ve noticed fewer and fewer Ron Paul-related stories on the front page of Digg. Maybe Kevin Rose had the monkeys tweak the algorithm a little more? Nah, more likely they were out drinking beers. [...]</p> [...] Over the past couple weeks, I’ve noticed fewer and fewer Ron Paul-related stories on the front page of Digg. Maybe Kevin Rose had the monkeys tweak the algorithm a little more? Nah, more likely they were out drinking beers. [...]

]]> By: C. Loew http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-71149 C. Loew Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:42:50 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-71149 <p>It's not a conspiracy. Here's how I found your site tonight: I was interested in Paul because of his great debate performance, though I was already aware of his libertarian stances and reputation for sticking to his constitutional convictions.</p> <p>I googled for news on him, found an article with tons of pro-Paul comments and found links in some of the comments about polls. I voted in the LA Times poll and would have voted for him in yours too if he were allowed. </p> <p>Does that make me a conspirator? Paul's supporters are just following the links in comments and posting their own links. It's organic (far as I can tell) and not something that the campaign is masterminding.</p> It’s not a conspiracy. Here’s how I found your site tonight: I was interested in Paul because of his great debate performance, though I was already aware of his libertarian stances and reputation for sticking to his constitutional convictions.

I googled for news on him, found an article with tons of pro-Paul comments and found links in some of the comments about polls. I voted in the LA Times poll and would have voted for him in yours too if he were allowed.

Does that make me a conspirator? Paul’s supporters are just following the links in comments and posting their own links. It’s organic (far as I can tell) and not something that the campaign is masterminding.

]]> By: James M. Ray http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-70677 James M. Ray Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:06:33 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-70677 <p>I love how the comments totally refute this post, but if they didn't do the same for you, why not try looking at what the campaign actually-SAYS: http://wiki.ronpaulpresshub.com/index.php?title=Polls says: "Please remember, you should place only <em>1</em> vote per poll. Thank you! Note: Anything else would harm Ron Paul and the very ideas he promotes. Most polls have a security feature which tracks your IP Address and makes it impossible to vote more than once - it is therefore also very easy to see whether there are a bunch of people trying to vote more than once for one candidate." But I suppose that's just for public consumption, and actually we Ron Paul supporters are secretly PGPing encrypted messages to eachother so we can "manipulate" polls by voting in them. It's great how many times I've been called "a spammer" for simply exercising my rights this year, certainly gives an insight into opponents' mindsets, since they tend to accuse us of what they're planning/doing in my experience... JMR</p> I love how the comments totally refute this post, but if they didn’t do the same for you, why not try looking at what the campaign actually-SAYS:
http://wiki.ronpaulpresshub.com/index.php?title=Polls
says: “Please remember, you should place only 1 vote per poll. Thank you! Note: Anything else would harm Ron Paul and the very ideas he promotes. Most polls have a security feature which tracks your IP Address and makes it impossible to vote more than once – it is therefore also very easy to see whether there are a bunch of people trying to vote more than once for one candidate.”
But I suppose that’s just for public consumption, and actually we Ron Paul supporters are secretly PGPing encrypted messages to eachother so we can “manipulate” polls by voting in them. It’s great how many times I’ve been called “a spammer” for simply exercising my rights this year, certainly gives an insight into opponents’ mindsets, since they tend to accuse us of what they’re planning/doing in my experience…
JMR

]]> By: e.politics: online advocacy tools & tactics » Ron Paul: Online Natural, Doomed Candidate http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line/comment-page-1#comment-69553 e.politics: online advocacy tools & tactics » Ron Paul: Online Natural, Doomed Candidate Sun, 03 Jun 2007 23:12:08 +0000 http://www.blogpi.net/inside-the-ron-paul-machine-ii-on-the-assembly-line#comment-69553 <p>[...] Though many observers have been fascinated by his apparent rise, it really shouldn’t come as a surprise: his positions and his background make him a perfect Web candidate. But, they’ll also ultimately doom his candidacy. Here’s why he’s an online natural: [...]</p> [...] Though many observers have been fascinated by his apparent rise, it really shouldn’t come as a surprise: his positions and his background make him a perfect Web candidate. But, they’ll also ultimately doom his candidacy. Here’s why he’s an online natural: [...]

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