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	<title>Comments on: Hot Or Not: From Beltway Insiders To Blogosphere Outsiders</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rightroots, Big Red Tent and Slatecard: An Assessment at Blog P.I.</title>
		<link>http://www.blogpi.net/hot-or-not-from-beltway-insiders-to-blogosphere-outsiders#comment-113649</link>
		<dc:creator>Rightroots, Big Red Tent and Slatecard: An Assessment at Blog P.I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Stump Speeches, Slates, Groups, Files, Contact lists, Guestbooks, Inboxes... help! I&#8217;m utterly lost. The confusing array of features reminds me of the late, unmourned HotSoup and its &#8220;issue loops.&#8221; [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stump Speeches, Slates, Groups, Files, Contact lists, Guestbooks, Inboxes&#8230; help! I&#8217;m utterly lost. The confusing array of features reminds me of the late, unmourned HotSoup and its &#8220;issue loops.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Open Season at Blog P.I.</title>
		<link>http://www.blogpi.net/hot-or-not-from-beltway-insiders-to-blogosphere-outsiders#comment-80498</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Season at Blog P.I.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Not enough for you? See the whole thing here. For my thoughts on the (apparently defunct) disaster called HotSoup, see here.    Share and share alike These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Not enough for you? See the whole thing here. For my thoughts on the (apparently defunct) disaster called HotSoup, see here.    Share and share alike These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.blogpi.net/hot-or-not-from-beltway-insiders-to-blogosphere-outsiders#comment-3553</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would also add one more note to my comment above- I think that Joe Lockhart and Co. are probably the wrong people to create something like this, because of the fact that they are political insiders. For a niche political networking site to be a truly successful instrument of change it needs to come from an outside source, which is not afraid to rattle a few cages. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Moreover, it truly needs to have a strong focus on real people, and empowering their views/voices into the system. Not to mention a clear actionable way for channeling the relationships and discussions done online into the real world for social change. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To that effect I stumbled onto this site- http://www.rizzleweb.com. It seems to have a very interesting concept of allowing everyday people to rate their congressmen/senator etc. (kind of like an employee does for an employer). Reading on their blog, it seems they are currently building a stronger site with increased focus on social networking, and also an interface which will allow people to forward their performance reviews/ratings directly to congressmen and senators. I could be wrong, but it’s interesting to ponder if this could be the Google of the political social networking world....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also add one more note to my comment above- I think that Joe Lockhart and Co. are probably the wrong people to create something like this, because of the fact that they are political insiders. For a niche political networking site to be a truly successful instrument of change it needs to come from an outside source, which is not afraid to rattle a few cages. </p>
<p>Moreover, it truly needs to have a strong focus on real people, and empowering their views/voices into the system. Not to mention a clear actionable way for channeling the relationships and discussions done online into the real world for social change. </p>
<p>To that effect I stumbled onto this site- <a href="http://www.rizzleweb.com">http://www.rizzleweb.com</a>. It seems to have a very interesting concept of allowing everyday people to rate their congressmen/senator etc. (kind of like an employee does for an employer). Reading on their blog, it seems they are currently building a stronger site with increased focus on social networking, and also an interface which will allow people to forward their performance reviews/ratings directly to congressmen and senators. I could be wrong, but it’s interesting to ponder if this could be the Google of the political social networking world&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 10:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;William- Great Article. In the social networking space, I'm generally quite cynical of large corporate attempts to mirror the success of more organic\entrepreneurial successes of social networking sites such as facebook and youtube. That aside though, I think the general idea of hotsoup was a very good, to create a niche social networking site based around politics. These typed of sites are actually doing quite well and I believe they will be the next "wave" in social networking.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With Hotsoup, as with many things the devil lies in the details. The fact is from the get go they have had a very poor implementation of the project. The final nail in the coffin I believe was laid with the structure of the site. Having organized the site around opinion drivers and everyone else they have imposed a hierarchy, which flies in the face of the egalitarianism that has made social networking sites successful. Within a site like Myspace, I can meet and converse with pretty much anyone I want. Hotsoup has taken a completely different route by filling press releases upon press release of celebrities who are “going to join” the conversation. It has created an unreal expectation that one will have a chance to converse with say Bill Clinton about social security. (As a side note -I might ask who would really want to converse with the so called opinion drivers? you pretty much know what they are going to say most of the time anyways. The more interesting discussions I believe take place with real people. For example talking with a intercity school teacher about the best method to fix our public schools…) Although the chances of Clinton actually taking to me about how to fix social security within a form  such as hotsoup are slim. As it is he has much better things to do-such as getting AIDS medicine to people in Africa.    &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the end though I think you are right-having realized this, Joe Lockhart and Co. might be trying to sell the site to MSNBC.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William- Great Article. In the social networking space, I&#8217;m generally quite cynical of large corporate attempts to mirror the success of more organic\entrepreneurial successes of social networking sites such as facebook and youtube. That aside though, I think the general idea of hotsoup was a very good, to create a niche social networking site based around politics. These typed of sites are actually doing quite well and I believe they will be the next &#8220;wave&#8221; in social networking.</p>
<p>With Hotsoup, as with many things the devil lies in the details. The fact is from the get go they have had a very poor implementation of the project. The final nail in the coffin I believe was laid with the structure of the site. Having organized the site around opinion drivers and everyone else they have imposed a hierarchy, which flies in the face of the egalitarianism that has made social networking sites successful. Within a site like Myspace, I can meet and converse with pretty much anyone I want. Hotsoup has taken a completely different route by filling press releases upon press release of celebrities who are “going to join” the conversation. It has created an unreal expectation that one will have a chance to converse with say Bill Clinton about social security. (As a side note -I might ask who would really want to converse with the so called opinion drivers? you pretty much know what they are going to say most of the time anyways. The more interesting discussions I believe take place with real people. For example talking with a intercity school teacher about the best method to fix our public schools…) Although the chances of Clinton actually taking to me about how to fix social security within a form  such as hotsoup are slim. As it is he has much better things to do-such as getting AIDS medicine to people in Africa.    </p>
<p>In the end though I think you are right-having realized this, Joe Lockhart and Co. might be trying to sell the site to MSNBC.</p>
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		<title>By: William Beutler</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Beutler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sam, thanks. That's a good question. It's something to think about further, but my initial guess is that someone at HotSoup finally realized their rhetoric about creating an exciting new forum was losing to reality. They already had advertising from NBC and McKinnon is making regular appearances on Hardball -- so corporate synergy was already in effect. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So by signing up with MSNBC, HotSoup is already a success, despite everything else. Now they could tap MSNBC's resources to improve the website and maybe locate an audience. More cynically, they might try to sell it off and wash their hands of the project.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, thanks. That&#8217;s a good question. It&#8217;s something to think about further, but my initial guess is that someone at HotSoup finally realized their rhetoric about creating an exciting new forum was losing to reality. They already had advertising from NBC and McKinnon is making regular appearances on Hardball &#8212; so corporate synergy was already in effect. </p>
<p>So by signing up with MSNBC, HotSoup is already a success, despite everything else. Now they could tap MSNBC&#8217;s resources to improve the website and maybe locate an audience. More cynically, they might try to sell it off and wash their hands of the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;William, great analysis of the pitfalls of HotSoup!  I recently wrote a short piece highlighting the new partnership between the site and MSNBC and was glad to have your site as a resource to link to that shows the other side of the coin that the press releases aren't going to emphasize.  The recent piece at C3 is available &lt;a href="http://www.convergenceculture.org/weblog/2006/11/hotsoupmsnbc_a_powerful_combin.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  What do you think is the driving force behind the partnership with MSNBC?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, great analysis of the pitfalls of HotSoup!  I recently wrote a short piece highlighting the new partnership between the site and MSNBC and was glad to have your site as a resource to link to that shows the other side of the coin that the press releases aren&#8217;t going to emphasize.  The recent piece at C3 is available <a href="http://www.convergenceculture.org/weblog/2006/11/hotsoupmsnbc_a_powerful_combin.html">here</a>.  What do you think is the driving force behind the partnership with MSNBC?</p>
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		<title>By: Convergence Culture Consortium (C3@MIT)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Convergence Culture Consortium (C3@MIT)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;HotSoup/MSNBC: A Powerful Combination or Hype and Bluster?...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MSNBC is hoping to garner stronger interest in discussion surrounding political issues, and subsequently stronger ratings for its political coverage, through its new partnership with HotSoup. HotSoup is a Web site which facilitates public policy and po...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>MSNBC is hoping to garner stronger interest in discussion surrounding political issues, and subsequently stronger ratings for its political coverage, through its new partnership with HotSoup. HotSoup is a Web site which facilitates public policy and po&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hotsoup is a mess &#187; The Bivings Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hotsoup is a mess &#187; The Bivings Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Hot Or Not: From Beltway Insiders To Blogosphere Outsiders - Blog PI [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Todd Zeigler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Zeigler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great breakdown.  I just went through this thing and think it is DOA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I question the intelligence of the idea to begin with.  But the execution is so atrocious they aren't even giving themselves a chance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The part I found most bizarre is that there is no way to add someone as a friend in the networking area of the site.  Isn't that the point?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great breakdown.  I just went through this thing and think it is DOA.</p>
<p>I question the intelligence of the idea to begin with.  But the execution is so atrocious they aren&#8217;t even giving themselves a chance.</p>
<p>The part I found most bizarre is that there is no way to add someone as a friend in the networking area of the site.  Isn&#8217;t that the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Clanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Clanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting analysis. Don't you have anything else to do with your time? Why not go to work for these guys and help them address the issues you've revealed? Nothing wrong with constructive criticism...unless nothing is done about it. Be a part of the solution.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting analysis. Don&#8217;t you have anything else to do with your time? Why not go to work for these guys and help them address the issues you&#8217;ve revealed? Nothing wrong with constructive criticism&#8230;unless nothing is done about it. Be a part of the solution.</p>
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