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	<title>Comments on: Bush and Batman vs. Bush and Batman</title>
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		<title>By: Ally</title>
		<link>http://www.blogpi.net/bush-and-batman-vs-bush-and-batman#comment-145737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a fantastic video.  It just goes to show that we're told the same messages over and over for decades.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While both Batman and Bush claim to be fighting terrorists, I disagree that The Dark Knight was a conservative movie about the war on terror.  I think the real similarities between Batman and Bush have to do with the American Dream and the public's idea of the "rugged individual."&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic video.  It just goes to show that we&#8217;re told the same messages over and over for decades.  </p>
<p>While both Batman and Bush claim to be fighting terrorists, I disagree that The Dark Knight was a conservative movie about the war on terror.  I think the real similarities between Batman and Bush have to do with the American Dream and the public&#8217;s idea of the &#8220;rugged individual.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Forlourned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forlourned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank-you. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That youtube video was Amazing! It shows how both writers of a TV show and the President speeches -or of his own words- share such commonality that regular folks can't tell the difference. In regards to Bush is Batman(TV) and Batman(TV) is Bush truly nails that in this video. Thank-you for the Link.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The bonus in that video of a BDS old fart tops it off sweetly! I could only imagine the froth and bloodshot eyes from him while ranting. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sweet Indeed!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you. </p>
<p>That youtube video was Amazing! It shows how both writers of a TV show and the President speeches -or of his own words- share such commonality that regular folks can&#8217;t tell the difference. In regards to Bush is Batman(TV) and Batman(TV) is Bush truly nails that in this video. Thank-you for the Link.</p>
<p>The bonus in that video of a BDS old fart tops it off sweetly! I could only imagine the froth and bloodshot eyes from him while ranting. </p>
<p>Sweet Indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: William Beutler</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Beutler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I promise I will read all your comments just as soon as I've actually seen the danged movie. Soon, I hope.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise I will read all your comments just as soon as I&#8217;ve actually seen the danged movie. Soon, I hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'll bite.  I see one big, huge, and all-important difference.  Batman does what he can to try to alleviate the fear of the public and make them hopeful and resilient, knowing that public fear helps the Joker, not public order.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bite.  I see one big, huge, and all-important difference.  Batman does what he can to try to alleviate the fear of the public and make them hopeful and resilient, knowing that public fear helps the Joker, not public order.</p>
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		<title>By: Batfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Batfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why the Bush/Batman analogy doesn't work: &lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batman knows when to turn off his eavesdropping machine and realizes that his use of it could quickly get out of hand. He resorts to using it only once and decides to destroy it afterwards. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batman only resorts to torture in the most dire and immediate of circumstances. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batman is all about due process of the law. At no point in that movie does he toss someone into a cell in Cuba for 4+ years and not charge them on anything. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batman actually has the balls to fight bad guys himself, whereas Bush sat out Vietnam. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batman actually goes after people who pose a real threat to his town.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Batman is smart. Bush is stupid. Duh.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the Bush/Batman analogy doesn&#8217;t work: </p>
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<p>Batman knows when to turn off his eavesdropping machine and realizes that his use of it could quickly get out of hand. He resorts to using it only once and decides to destroy it afterwards. </p>
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<p>Batman only resorts to torture in the most dire and immediate of circumstances. </p>
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<p>Batman is all about due process of the law. At no point in that movie does he toss someone into a cell in Cuba for 4+ years and not charge them on anything. </p>
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<p>Batman actually has the balls to fight bad guys himself, whereas Bush sat out Vietnam. </p>
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<p>Batman actually goes after people who pose a real threat to his town.  </p>
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<p>Batman is smart. Bush is stupid. Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Extreme Mortman &#187; The W Is For Wicker, King Of The Wicker People - Just When You Thought it Was Safe to Take Politics Seriously Again</title>
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		<dc:creator>Extreme Mortman &#187; The W Is For Wicker, King Of The Wicker People - Just When You Thought it Was Safe to Take Politics Seriously Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Noah David Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah David Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have been dealing with this issue as well
simonstudiotheatre.blogspot.com/2008/07/batman-panopticons.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the philosophical and political issues were played well. Dark Knight is most certainly an argument for voting Republican. Surveillance to fight violence? The need to lie to save Democracy and Justice? I don't think Obama would feel comfortable dealing with the Joker. The line between murder and torture were delineated between Two Face and Batman. BatMan is a Republican who understands the Black Hat that justice sometimes has to take.... he tortures, but never takes a life. We need to get BatMan a job at Guatanomo. BatMan McCain for president! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(firstly) Alfred is not justifying his actions. So it can't be taken that he feels that is was a moral argument. (Two) the entire movie evolves from a delineation between "Two Face", "BatMan" and "The Joker". "Two Face" even in his human pre-identity never has the moral backbone that "BatMan" has (that is a given from the comic book). Harvey Dent tortures and is not afraid to kill. He makes that very clear and takes on the character of "Two Face" before he becomes "Two Face". BatMan corrects this action, but has no problem torturing the "Joker" wen he is in jail. Therefor we can assume that "BatMan is not beyond torture, but will not take the death penalty into his own hands. One can assume that BatMan would understand Guantanamo... but would never kill because he is not due process. A government sanctioned war is part of due process (Three) As for the Joker... he remains the terrorist... or even a "Super" Terrorist in that he would kill... even if he does not benefit. Remember Joker is not about the money and personal benefit. He BURNS the money. Joker wants to terrorize for the sake of terror because he is angry. He has no meaning at all. The Joker has no structure he believes in. One might even argue that the joker doesn't even care about his own life and takes destroying the establishment to be his first priority, He has Harvey Dent put his gun to his head to see if he can prove that Dent in no better then him. He laughs at BatMan to encourage him to break his own values and kill him.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been dealing with this issue as well<br />
simonstudiotheatre.blogspot.com/2008/07/batman-panopticons.html</p>
<p>the philosophical and political issues were played well. Dark Knight is most certainly an argument for voting Republican. Surveillance to fight violence? The need to lie to save Democracy and Justice? I don&#8217;t think Obama would feel comfortable dealing with the Joker. The line between murder and torture were delineated between Two Face and Batman. BatMan is a Republican who understands the Black Hat that justice sometimes has to take&#8230;. he tortures, but never takes a life. We need to get BatMan a job at Guatanomo. BatMan McCain for president! </p>
<p>(firstly) Alfred is not justifying his actions. So it can&#8217;t be taken that he feels that is was a moral argument. (Two) the entire movie evolves from a delineation between &#8220;Two Face&#8221;, &#8220;BatMan&#8221; and &#8220;The Joker&#8221;. &#8220;Two Face&#8221; even in his human pre-identity never has the moral backbone that &#8220;BatMan&#8221; has (that is a given from the comic book). Harvey Dent tortures and is not afraid to kill. He makes that very clear and takes on the character of &#8220;Two Face&#8221; before he becomes &#8220;Two Face&#8221;. BatMan corrects this action, but has no problem torturing the &#8220;Joker&#8221; wen he is in jail. Therefor we can assume that &#8220;BatMan is not beyond torture, but will not take the death penalty into his own hands. One can assume that BatMan would understand Guantanamo&#8230; but would never kill because he is not due process. A government sanctioned war is part of due process (Three) As for the Joker&#8230; he remains the terrorist&#8230; or even a &#8220;Super&#8221; Terrorist in that he would kill&#8230; even if he does not benefit. Remember Joker is not about the money and personal benefit. He BURNS the money. Joker wants to terrorize for the sake of terror because he is angry. He has no meaning at all. The Joker has no structure he believes in. One might even argue that the joker doesn&#8217;t even care about his own life and takes destroying the establishment to be his first priority, He has Harvey Dent put his gun to his head to see if he can prove that Dent in no better then him. He laughs at BatMan to encourage him to break his own values and kill him.</p>
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